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Spamming NRDC about recycling used nuclear fuel

January 4, 2014 By Rod Adams

The following tweet led me to an interesting tale about the history of recycling.

#Recycling seems like a relatively modern phenomenon. Instead, it has deep roots. http://t.co/5NqweNZVkb via @OnEarthMag

— NRDC (@NRDC) January 4, 2014

After reading the article, I composed the following comment, taking care to ensure that it followed the rules for civil discourse that govern NRDC blogs.

All comments offered in the spirit of civil discourse are welcome. Commercial spam, obscenity, and other rude behavior are not and will be removed. Due to our nonprofit status, we are also required to delete any express or implied statement endorsing or opposing any political party or candidate for political office. Valid email addresses are required. (OnEarth respects your privacy and will not use, lend, or sell your email address for any reason.)

Here is my comment as copied and pasted from the comment block. I have not made any edits.

Both of my parents grew up on cash-poor farms during the Depression. They learned how to recycle as children and carried those habits throughout their lives. They taught my siblings and I about recycling in the early to mid to late 1960s; we recycled bottles, paper, even kitchen scraps into a compost bin.

I have carried the lessons I learned then throughout my adult life in both my personal and professional activities.

That is why I continue to be confused about the NRDC’s position on recycling used nuclear fuel. Fully 95% of the potential energy remains in the fuel assemblies that are removed from reactors in the once through fuel cycle.

Unfortunately, many organizations, including yours, think it would be better to bury that valuable material deep underground than to invest in the systems and scientific research that would enable the material to be safely and economically reused. Can you help me to understand your seemingly conflicted position with regard to the mantra of “reduce, reuse and recycle.”

Thank you for your assistance.

Rod Adams
Publisher, Atomic Insights

When I hit submit, I was notified by the site that my comment had triggered the spam filter and would not be accepted. Here is a screenshot of that response.

NRDC recycling rejection

Can anyone guess what might have triggered the spam filters? I wonder if the NRDC has chosen to filter comments for bad grammar? Upon more careful proofreading, I realized that the third sentence in my comment should have said “…my siblings and me…” and that that I should have used a question mark rather than a period in the last sentence.

Otherwise, I am befuddled.

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Filed Under: Antinuclear activist, Fuel Recycling

About Rod Adams

Managing member at Nucleation Capital, LP.
Atomic energy expert with small nuclear plant operating and design experience. Financial, strategic, and political analyst. Former submarine Engineer Officer. Founder, Adams Atomic Engines, Inc. Host and producer, The Atomic Show Podcast. Resume available here.

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Comments

  1. Engineer-Poet says

    January 4, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    I’d bet $5 that the words “atomic” and “nuclear” are either tagged spammy or banned outright.

  2. Todd says

    January 4, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    Sad situation, but the sarcasm provided an excellent belly laugh, thanks for that!!

    On a side note and totally unrelated, I would be interested in your comments on this, from a company in my home city, Winnipeg Canada. Intelligence software they claim can help with electicity pricing/forecasting, I suppose http://www.invenia.ca/index.html
    From today’s Winnipeg Free Press http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/data-power-nice-mix-for-firm-238687251.html

    • Rod Adams says

      January 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM

      The software company wouldn’t find much of a market in an intelligently run grid supplied by reliable generators, would it?

      • Todd says

        January 4, 2014 at 1:08 PM

        Ah yes, good common sense point there, thank you.

      • starvinglion says

        January 4, 2014 at 1:18 PM

        But they are innovating!!! like the MBA trash outfitting the Idiocracy’s favorite “human” dumping ground called Walmart with solar panels.

        Can’t have the physicists piling up otherwise the central bank cons wouldn’t be able to steal so readily.

  3. starvinglion says

    January 4, 2014 at 1:13 PM

    NRC – another central bank crime organization funded by the Idiocracy called The Stupid Taxpayer of which there is no accountability. The capital and operating costs of large LWR’s remain a total mystery in thanks to these thugs disguised as do-gooders.

    It would be abolished immediately except for the big gov loons who love these worthless scam outfits like the NSA and such.

    • Rod Adams says

      January 4, 2014 at 1:17 PM

      @starvinglion

      Where in this post is there anything remotely related to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC)?

  4. Keith Pickering says

    January 4, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    Every single comment I’ve tried to post to that article has gotten the same spam filter message, regardless of content. I’m betting it’s a software bug.

  5. Keith Pickering says

    January 4, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    We should all recycle more. Thanks for the reminder.

  6. John Tucker says

    January 4, 2014 at 4:20 PM

    There are so many sites now where the sole purpose of comment section is to agree with the post/and/or provide a social interaction space for like minded individuals. They are usually policed solely by substandard ideologues and/or bots. I think this is another example.

    It gives the illusion of truth, openness and reason without all the messy and difficult reference, thought and argument that it requires.

  7. Eino says

    January 4, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    “There are so many sites now where the sole purpose of comment section is to agree with the post/and/or provide a social interaction space for like minded individuals”

    I agree.

  8. Sean McKinnon says

    January 4, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    That is why as much as it pains me to read things that Bas and Starvinglion write I applaud Rod for allowing others views.

    • Rod Adams says

      January 5, 2014 at 4:40 AM

      @Sean McKinnon

      There is certainly a balance between accepting the annoyance and deciding to screen certain types of commentary, but I tend to err on the side of more discussion rather than less. Bots are not allowed, but real people can generally express any view they want as long as they do not cross rather fuzzy lines and harmfully attack anyone other than me. (I have a thick skin.)

      I don’t know if you have noticed, but Bas seems to have decided that he was wasting his time here. There has been no effort on my part to stop his posts, but his production level has dropped off rather dramatically.

      I just searched; it looks like his last comment was on 12/17.

      • Daniel says

        January 5, 2014 at 6:35 AM

        Whatever happened to Luke from down under ?

        Is he still hosting his ‘oh my god’ Fukusjima panic site ?

        He used to come and visit here once in a while.

      • Rod Adams says

        January 5, 2014 at 7:23 AM

        @Daniel

        I think you are talking about Luke Weston. The last I heard, he was busily working on graduate school and probably has figured out that he needs to focus in order to complete that important endeavor.

      • Jeff Walther says

        January 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM

        Almost to the day when Angry_American (or whatever his handle is) showed up.

        I more than half suspect that A_A was our paid warranty replacement after breaking BAS. But then, I tend toward paranoia — not personal paranoia. I don’t think anyone cares enough to be out to get me, but paranoia about the motives of others.

  9. KitemanSA says

    January 6, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    Obviously what triggered the spam filter is the term “Rod Adams”.

    • Jeff Walther says

      January 7, 2014 at 12:17 PM

      Well, he does have the word “scraps” in there. Could an overly ambitious censor program be taking it out because it contains “crap”? I used to run into that — somewhere. It wasn’t that particular word, but there was a combination of three words which were a term of art for the subject matter of the forum, and the forum censor software saw some socially unacceptable word in the midst of the letters, even though they were three separate words.

      Bad regular expression. No cookie.

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