1. Droz must be really getting under their skin, considering the number of hit-pieces in the “environmental” media that I’ve read about him in the last year or so.

    Of course, the fact that he is a senior fellow at the American Tradition Institute makes him an easy target to demonize to the usual “check-your-brain-at-the-door” type of audience that normally reads these propaganda rags. The reality, however, as far as I can tell, is that he’s just an independent, monetarily self-sufficient retired guy with time on his hands and a passion for taking up what he perceives to be worthy causes. That’s what I think drives the lobbyists and “environmental” media crazy.

    When he lived in New York, he worked to change the state’s water rules to improve oversight of companies bottling and selling groundwater. Originally, he was naively in favor of wind power, but after further investigation, he saw the scam, and he has been a campaigner against this scam ever since.

    He has opinions on other matters that I think Rod would disagree with, which is why I’m a bit surprised to see his name show up on this blog.

    1. Brian:

      Thank you for your kind words.

      My entire focus is on getting science to be the basis of our energy and environmental policies. I’m sure that Rod shares that perspective.

      Thank you for the H/T re commercial water extraction – which I worked on for over ten years. Then, like now, I have been paid a dime by anyone.

      BTW I still have a summer cottage in the Adirondacks.


      Thank you for the reference!

      1. @John Droz

        Thank you for the work that you are doing in raising awareness of the way that the wind energy promoters are leading decision makers and society to a dead end path — and personally profiting by the fleecing.

        I think your comment, however, is missing a word in the following statement:

        Then, like now, I have been paid a dime by anyone.

        I suspect you meant:

        Then, like now, I have not been paid a dime by anyone.

  2. Hi Rod Adams,

    The United States must streamline its nuclear bureaucracy. South Korea has the same rules in principle but much cheaper application.
    Earlier APR-1400 cost $2,3 / We but after that country last summer, has developed its nuclear industry to self-sufficiency, the cost has fallen further.

    $4,7G for two APR-1400 sounds near the costs in India. (they plan to sell 90 APR to 2030 and then they have to be very productive)

    “In April 2009 the government authorized construction of Shin Ulchin 1 & 2 and contracts for major components were signed in March 2010. First concrete for unit 1 was poured at the end of July 2012, with completion expected in April 2017. Unit 2 is a year behind it. The two units will be the first to be virtually free of Westinghouse IP content and are expected to cost US$ 4.7 billion. Site works commenced in May 2012.”


    As you know APR builds in pair for synergy effects.

    Now Korea prepare for all permits to be given by an authority in a month’s time.
    Consider that in the U.S., a month from application to build a nuclear plant until the concrete can be ordered. That is what US have to develop if the country will win the energy race. (personally I don´t think they can reach a month in the next ten years, but the ambition sound right)

    South Korea has recognized that laws, regulations and enforcement is an effective way to increase the competitiveness of the industry.
    Recent abolished 600 laws and 3500 rules at once.

    See the corporate tax rate, it was lowered to 15% while many loopholes clogged (compare with the U.S., where tax planning is often more profitable than corporate production).

    India’s nuclear power industry is getting ready for mass production, which already built GenIII cheaper than the equivalent coal power plant, so considering coal´s expensive logistics, nuclear power in India will be cheaper even if coal would be for free.

    Nuclear reactors must be mass produced to have a chance, I´m for smr.

    But I see most hope in small msr-burner that is the way to get rid of all arguments from the green movement, even they can´t go against nuclear waste burner.

    Oake Ridge finished a study 2010 that conclude msr whit fast neutron spectrum may be the best way.

    My best //gunnar

    1. There’s quite a bit of opposition to nuclear in India with some large scale protest.

      Given how much less polluting the nuclear plant are than the coal one that would be built instead and the small impact on population, I wonder what’s really happening.

      If the nuclear industry was a little bit smart, they would pay to some of the most adamant nuclear opponent in India a trip to the Clinton Lake State Recreation area and show them Americans fishing bass, bluegill, crappie, channel catfish, bullhea, etc. in the Clinton Lake a few hundred meters down the discharge canal of Clinton Nuclear Power Station.
      At Tamil Nadu, the Indians are *convinced* nuclear will kill their fishing industry, and apparently figurING that nuclear is something that impacts the local environment even more than coal.

    2. The United States must streamline its nuclear bureaucracy. South Korea has the same rules in principle but much cheaper application.

      Gunnar – I don’t know whether you follow US politics, but the recent trend in the US is towards a North-Korean-style top-down approach to policy — with more bureaucracy, more regulation, more control by government-appointed “experts” who answer only to politicians — rather than the more entrepreneurial and market-driven economic climate enjoyed in the South.

      In fact, given their way, some of the “experts” in current US administration might be able to realize finally their ultimate dream: the US enjoying a perpetual “Earth Hour” every day, much like what the North Koreans have.

      Currently, the “nuclear bureaucracy” in the US is headed by an unqualified anti-nuke (the second in a series) whose sole reason for being appointed was to keep the Yucca Mountain Project derailed, thereby giving her fellow anti-nukes (like her husband) reason to continue to scream about how bad nuclear power is because we can’t do anything with the waste. As a result of the recent elections, it is likely that she’ll stick around for at least four more years.

  3. Hi Rod

    Thank you and Steve for the friendship and the great posts! I just came back from the Interactive TV hearing. Our side had quite a few speakers, including some very moving statements about air quality. I need to blog about this, but I admit I am tired right now.

    I just wanted to say that I do not have “most” of the testimony on my blog from the November 7 meeting in Vernon. Several people counted speakers, and there were 39 pro-VY speakers at that meeting. I have 17 of their statements on my blog. I would like to say I chose the “best statements” but actually, I have the statements I could get…from the people who responded to my email and emailed me a copy of their statement. I am still chasing some more statements, and there were quite a few other people speaking at the interactive meeting. I don’t hope to be complete, but I hope to get at least a few more up there. There’s a transcript by the court reporter, also, but I don’t know if that is available yet. It’s all a bit of a chase. I don’t have all the email addresses, either. Etc. I mostly know who spoke, because several plant supporters made lists of the pro-VY speakers.

    All the statements were terrific. I am very happy to have them on my blog. I plan to get more.

    Thank you again.


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